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Vince Prygoski - 2005-01-10 14:33:24
It's beginning to look a lot like Vietnam, again...cue up the soundtrack of Country Joe and the Fish singing "Feel Like I'm Fixin' to Die" and Phil Ochs singing "I Ain't Marchin' Anymore." The government and corporate greedheads are at it again, pludering and killing for profit. While all the while trying to pretend that it is a noble cause and we are "fighting for freedom and democracy" or some other comforting illusion. Yes, the urge to scream (and throw things, and swear, and otherwise express anger) is more and more difficult to avoid these days.
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Laura - 2005-01-10 14:37:50
Welcome back, Vince!

One of the articles says that napalm was outlawed by every nation except one--guess which one. There are also some photos out there showing some of the bodies, but I could barely look at those and didn't choose to link to them.
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Vince Prygoski - 2005-01-10 14:46:47
Yep, with the United States it is often "do as I say and not as I do." So many things that our government condemns others for, our government is just as guilty of if not more so.
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LF - 2005-01-10 16:36:44
." So many things that our government condemns others for, our government is just as guilty of if not more so." Land mines and the kyoto treaty come to mind immediately
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Laura - 2005-01-10 16:39:00
Radioactive bunker-busting arms that permanently poison the soil with radiation.
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LF - 2005-01-10 16:41:58
depleted uranium anti-tank rounds that make our own service people gravely ill...
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Laura - 2005-01-10 16:47:41
There just was published an article that the fertility rate of Gulf vets is abnormally low, but that seems beyond the reach of google for some reason.
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Laura - 2005-01-10 16:49:34
And yes, the depleted-uranium ammo is a bad invention, indeed.
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Dan Arbor - 2005-01-10 20:33:57
I was going to comment on the Vietnam aspect of this, too. Just as with that dirty little war, we're going to hear more nasty stories like this. The military Gung Ho machine is so far into overdrive trying to counter doubt and spin Iraq as another WWII (just as they did Vietnam), that we'll likely have another My Lai sooner, rather than later.

This current administration is really a throwback to Tricky Dick's regime. And why not? So many senior Bush officials are Nixon veterans; it would be funny, if it weren't so damn scary. These clowns didn't learn anything the first time around; why would they now?

Well, if we're hoping for history to repeat, then we have the advantage. Nixon won big in '72, only to resign in disgrace in '74. Cross your fingers.
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Laura - 2005-01-10 21:04:24
There are indeed many parallels to Viet Nam, form my limited reading on the subject. Guerilla warfare. Booby-trap bombs. Inability to tell insurgent from citizen. "Destroy a hamlet in order to save it." Doubts among soldiers. Mute peace movement (the peace movement regarding Viet Nam didn't get loud till near the end of the war).
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Laura - 2005-01-10 21:08:54
The Ann Arbor Area Committee for Peace was loud just before the invasion. Ypsidixit attended the big peace-sign rally on the Diag and a couple of vigils and a peace concert at the Ark. But they've died completely. They're not holding monthly teach-ins on current events, they're not sponsoring talks, they're not holding vigils anymore.

There's the noontime Tuesday and Saturday "honk for peace" vigils down by the Federal Building in AA, but those are organized by different groups. There is no active peace movement in Ann Arbor. Or Ypsi, for that matter.
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LF - 2005-01-10 22:17:48
speaking of 'Nam, don't forget about the soldiers who have purposely shot/maimed themselves to avoid going back to Iraq (and the high risk of dismemberment by an IED)
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Dan Arbor - 2005-01-10 22:47:21
The Masters of War, as Dylan would say, have no more regard for the soldiers currently deplyed than they would for chessmen on a board.

Except, in this administration's case, the anologous game would really only be checkers...
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Dan Arbor - 2005-01-10 22:49:11
er, ah, should read "deployed"..and um "analogous"...

Clearly, I am not a typist...
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Laura - 2005-01-10 23:07:42
LF, thanks to what amounts to a media blackout, I haven't heard stories about soldier self-mutilation; might you have any links?

Dan: I agree with you; most of the people directing this "war" have had no direct personal experience with war.
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