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Ypsidweller - 2004-08-27 10:59:53 Mr. Mann is a charming gentleman and a good writer. Funny--I also got that impression about him, that he was from another time, when I met him briefly at the Heritage Fest. Yes, I've read the Michigan Murders and it gave me the chills--I read it late at night, no less. * * * * * * * * * * * * raymond - 2004-08-27 11:15:07 I propose a Michigan Murders walking and biking tour. During Heritage Festival? I'm sorry to see the old State Police Post go away. I wonder if the cell which held JNC is still there?* * * * * * * * * * * * Laura - 2004-08-27 11:20:05 raymond: I'll go. if I remember, the book has maps...as for me, I think visiting the sites alone would give me the quimblies. Hmm..an ex of mine once roomed in the EMU frat house JNC once lived in but danged if I can remember which one it is on campus. * * * * * * * * * * * * yd - 2004-08-27 11:20:33 http://www.skcentral.com/collins.html* * * * * * * * * * * * Laura - 2004-08-27 11:23:01 whew--thousand-yard stare, weird. Thanks for the link, Ypsidweller. * * * * * * * * * * * * yd - 2004-08-27 11:24:05 One after work spot by Chalmers on Huron River drive is where the police had an unsucessful stakeout. It's quite thick and wild there.* * * * * * * * * * * * Laura - 2004-08-27 11:25:00 If I remember right there's a picture of that spot in the book. * * * * * * * * * * * * yd - 2004-08-27 11:25:56 The old barn foundation is still near Leforge and Geddes.* * * * * * * * * * * * Laura - 2004-08-27 11:28:37 Is it? Yikes! I'm getting the shivers just thinking about it. Is it on the north side of that intersection? * * * * * * * * * * * * yd - 2004-08-27 13:45:55 There are 2. One is North of the intersection, the other is south near where they are clearing for the new factory. Where there were silos until recently. Also one place was Superior rd between Geddeds and Huron River. On the east sidfe of superior. That barn can still be seen but is quickly deteriorating. I also understand he hung out at Georges Huron Inn a lot. Which is now Bowell's Pub* * * * * * * * * * * * Laura - 2004-08-27 14:25:06 Very interesting, Ypsidweller, thanks. Is that the little pub that's kitty corner, more or less, from the Keg? Across the street from the DPW yard?* * * * * * * * * * * * Laura - 2004-08-27 14:30:58 another site was off Glazier Way if I remember right.* * * * * * * * * * * * yd - 2004-08-27 14:50:25 Yes, kitty corner from the store that I boycott. One can see the railroad tracks from sitting in the bar. Speculation had it that he watched victims walking home from Depot town to Leforge rd apartments and would follow them down the tracks* * * * * * * * * * * * Laura - 2004-08-27 14:52:37 eeeuuuwwww, creepy. I can just imagine it. And that is a really desolate stretch of Huron, too--bleak. A onetime Native American burial ground was in that area, as it happens.* * * * * * * * * * * * yd - 2004-08-27 14:52:58 http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/predators/collins/out_10.html collins speaks on "Kelly & Company"* * * * * * * * * * * * Laura - 2004-08-27 14:56:14 Wow. Creepy. And that is so typical of sociopaths--just lying as easily as if it were the truth. Lie lie lie, smooth explanations...ugh, what a creature. Incidentally, Powell's looks from the outside to be Ypsilanti's most depressing bar.* * * * * * * * * * * * yd - 2004-08-27 14:58:43 Bowell's ain't that bad. Good football watching spot. One can be anonymous there. Same ten people for the last 20 years mostly. You want depressing? Try the "Idle Hour" on Ecourse. Or Arthurs, or Mr. Mikes.* * * * * * * * * * * * yd - 2004-08-27 15:00:19 Althought the Idle Hour does have the best dusty 30 year old black velvet paintings of fro-ed women I've ever seen.* * * * * * * * * * * * Laura - 2004-08-27 15:00:40 well, I don't want depressing, actually :) but thanks yd, I'll keep those in mind as far as spots to skip. yd, do you like books by the outstanding crime writer Ann Rule? I have all of 'em. She's a very good true-crime writer and former cop.* * * * * * * * * * * * yd - 2004-08-27 15:03:46 I may have read one by her. Not sure. do read true crime once and awhile. Currently, I am reading the 911 Comission report. Which is excellent.* * * * * * * * * * * * Laura - 2004-08-27 15:05:21 that's fascinating--that's one thing I have to pick up. Heard it's said to be quite well-written. * * * * * * * * * * * * yd - 2004-08-27 15:06:57 I understand that a historian wrote it. It reads like a novel. Was cheap at the airport, (5 or 6.99) Went to DC last week, which was a great place to read it.* * * * * * * * * * * * Laura - 2004-08-27 15:11:51 It sounds like it. I have to pick up a copy, definitely...I wonder if an ypsi bookstore has it.* * * * * * * * * * * * Laura - 2004-08-27 15:19:59 speaking of the michigan murders, ted bundy also breezed through this area, I understand, at some point in his career.* * * * * * * * * * * * Laura - 2004-08-27 15:25:52 And James Mann has written either articles or a book (?) about early Ypsi murders I think...I have to track down those other 2 books of his.* * * * * * * * * * * * yd - 2004-08-27 15:26:55 One of the best parts of the book is the trial. Which took place on Huron St. in Ypsi. I guess they had police snipers on all the rooftops. Now that would have been something to see.* * * * * * * * * * * * Laura - 2004-08-27 15:28:43 Wow! Now I want to reread that book--I'm curious to read about the trial (last time I read MM I didn't live in Ypsi).* * * * * * * * * * * * yd - 2004-08-27 15:35:04 feng shui and murder Linette and I just took a little walk around town and discovered something pretty interesting. The former house of John Norman Collins, the so-called Michigan Murderer, has changed orientation. Sitting at the corner of Emmet Street and College Place, the front door used to face College Place. Now, however, it faces Emmett. Between that, some new siding, and a few replacement windows, it looks like a completely different place. I didn�t think much of it at first, but then, as we got a few steps away from the house, it occurred to me that it might not be all that easy to sell the home of a well-known and prolific serial-killer. (John Norman Collins killed as many as nine women between 1967 and 1970.) Maybe I�m reading too much into this rehab project, but it seems to me that changing the front door would not only change the look of the place, but also the mailing address. Pretty ingenious, huh? Now, when potential homebuyers go and do their property searches, they won�t find stories of the �co-ed killer� and the evidence that was apparently removed from the charming little home.* * * * * * * * * * * * Laura - 2004-08-27 15:37:41 Weird change in the house, interesting...I'll have to check that out on the way home, I pass right by there (shiver). Thanks for the excerpt, yd.* * * * * * * * * * * * raymond - 2004-08-27 19:38:16 Addresses are found guilty, as on the Sex Offender Lists. Locations of crimes continue in infamy though perpetrators move on.* * * * * * * * * * * * Laura - 2004-08-27 19:52:55 Well...some places have a definite sinister feeling, I think. Maybe just an overactive imagination. I wouldn't be terribly thrilled to check out the LeForge-Geddes site all by my lonesome, that's for sure. But if a biking tour gels, Ypsidixit, true-crime reader, will definitely come. Some might think such a tour tasteless--I don't--it's just history, albeit rather dark history, to be sure.* * * * * * * * * * * * add your comment: |